{"id":9529,"date":"2019-11-19T13:16:38","date_gmt":"2019-11-19T13:16:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=9529"},"modified":"2019-11-19T13:16:38","modified_gmt":"2019-11-19T13:16:38","slug":"schwab-in-great-position-to-return-more-capital-to-shareholders","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=9529","title":{"rendered":"Schwab in Great Position to Return More Capital to Shareholders"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>With Schwab&#8217;s balance sheet restructuring, check out the changes in cash-flow generation for the discount-broker-cum-asset-management king, the last 3 years.<\/p>\n<p>While some of this might be temporary, the cash-flow and free-cash-flow improvement means that Schwab (SCHW) COULD return more capital to shareholders over the next few years. Given the conservative nature of Schwab however, that doesn&#8217;t mean it will.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Here is the history of &#8220;Chuck&#8217;s&#8221; cash-flow generation:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9532\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9532\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?attachment_id=9532\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9532\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-9532\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/schwabcashflowstmt111819-300x106.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"106\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/schwabcashflowstmt111819-300x106.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/schwabcashflowstmt111819-768x272.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/schwabcashflowstmt111819-1024x362.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/schwabcashflowstmt111819.png 1821w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9532\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click to open \/ enhance \/ enlarge<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Looking at the periods &#8220;pre balance sheet restructuring&#8221; which has resulted in the recent surge of cash-flow, but Schwab should be able to generate at least $1 billion to $1.5 billion in free-cash-flow every quarter, which would result in $4 to $6 billion annually.<\/p>\n<p>(Readers can see from looking at the dividend and share repo section that Schwab went years without repurchasing any stock.)<\/p>\n<p>The question is whether Schwab wants the dividend to be a bigger share of capital return or whether the Board wants to hold back more capital and use excess for share repurchases. Presently, the dividend is less than 10% of Schwab&#8217;s free-cash-flow while the pay-out ratio (less meaningful) is 25% of Schwab&#8217;s earnings per share.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Chuck&#8217;s valuation<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9534\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9534\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?attachment_id=9534\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9534\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-9534\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schwabsvaluation111819-300x83.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"83\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schwabsvaluation111819-300x83.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schwabsvaluation111819-768x212.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schwabsvaluation111819-1024x283.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schwabsvaluation111819.png 1813w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9534\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">click to open \/ enhance \/ enlarge<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Note Schwab&#8217;s current cash-flow and free-cash-flow per share valuation and the free-cash-flow yield. (lines 692, 693, and 698).<\/p>\n<p>Finally, here is a chart update on Schwab, from Gary S. Morrow (@garysmorrow), a great technician, posted last Friday, November 15th:<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9539\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9539\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?attachment_id=9539\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9539\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-9539\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schwabchart111519-300x220.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schwabchart111519-300x220.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Schwabchart111519.png 608w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9539\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click to open \/ enhance \/ enlarge<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Summary \/ conclusion:\u00a0 <\/strong><\/em>Chuck has already endured the worst of the selling around the zero commission price war, but that bad news is masking many positives around Schwab&#8217;s balance-sheet restructuring and cash-flow generation. Even if we assume that the surge in Schwab&#8217;s cash-flow is somewhat temporary, &#8220;steady-state&#8221; assumptions still indicate Schwab will have more capital to return to shareholders over the next few years.<\/p>\n<p>Morningstar retained Schwab&#8217;s &#8220;wide-moat&#8221; status after the zero commission headlines, and Schwab&#8217;s recent business update last week noted that Schwab&#8217;s &#8220;new accounts&#8221; rose 142,000 in October &#8217;19, up 31% from September &#8217;19 (yes, one month change) and rose 7% from October &#8217;18.<\/p>\n<p>For full and fair disclosure, Schwab has been this blog&#8217;s primary custodian since Day 1, in May, 1995, and there has never been need for another one, although at times I&#8217;m sure Chuck has wanted to strangle me (and I them). The support teams are great.<\/p>\n<p>Schwab&#8217;s all-time-high was May &#8217;18 near $58 per share. Calendar 2020 &#8211; per Street consensus &#8211; is looking for a slightly negative year in terms of revenue and EPS growth (-2% and -7% respectively) but let&#8217;s see if Schwab doesn&#8217;t use some of the excess capital to repurchase shares.<\/p>\n<p>Finally a caveat for readers: typically Financial stocks do not traditionally get valued on &#8220;cash-flow&#8221; and free-cash-flow basis, but rather capital adequacy and return-on-equity. However Schwab, and the discount brokers like the exchanges, (CME, ICE), are more asset-intensive with volume driven over a fixed-cost-base. Schwab might have to retain some of that excess cash-flow to hold on the balance sheet to generate interest income, but some of that will also likely get returned to shareholders.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is that the stock is substantially cheaper today with the worst of the price wars behind it. As Schwab works through 2020 the lowest expected growth it&#8217;s expecting in years, long-term investors should take an interest in the stock.<\/p>\n<p>(Schwab has been the #2 holding for client accounts since just after the Great Recession ended 2009, early 2010. It&#8217;s a long-term holding and will remain so, although it&#8217;s position has slipped to #3 as JP Morgan has rallied and Schwab has traded lower on the zero commission price war.)<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>With Schwab&#8217;s balance sheet restructuring, check out the changes in cash-flow generation for the discount-broker-cum-asset-management king, the last 3 years.&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[36],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9529","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-schw"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9529","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9529"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9529\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9542,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9529\/revisions\/9542"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9529"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9529"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9529"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}