{"id":9250,"date":"2019-08-20T13:24:41","date_gmt":"2019-08-20T13:24:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=9250"},"modified":"2019-08-20T13:24:41","modified_gmt":"2019-08-20T13:24:41","slug":"sp-500-looks-cheap-with-a-1-59-treasury-yield","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=9250","title":{"rendered":"SP 500 Looks Cheap with a 1.59% Treasury Yield"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(This blog post was written Friday night, August 16th but inadvertently saved as a &#8220;draft&#8221; instead of being published. It&#8217;s a few days old, but not much has changed.)<\/p>\n<p>Thomson Reuters used to have a guy that managed the &#8220;This Week in Earnings&#8221; report that is punished weekly by the firm and whose data is the source of much of this blog&#8217;s earnings work over the years. Michael Thompson ( hopefully that spelling is correct) was succeeded by John Butter at Thomson after Michael left, with John now responsible for Factset&#8217;s &#8220;Earnings Inisght&#8221; every week, a Factset publication that is quite good for its depth and breadth of SP 500 earnings coverage. David Aurelio and Tajinder Dhillon are now responsible for the &#8220;This Week in Earnings&#8221; although the data is sourced from IBES by Refinitiv.<\/p>\n<p>The point of all this is that years ago &#8211; in the early 2000&#8217;s &#8211; Michael Thompson was interviewed on CNBC with Mark Haines and Jim Cramer and he talked about something called the &#8220;Thomson Market Risk Premium&#8221; which is (or was) a calculation done at the Thomson earnings group that calculated what they called a &#8220;market risk&#8221; premium that was a function of the long-term earnings growth rate of the SP 500, (we&#8217;ll use 7%), an inverse of the PE ratio and then subtracts the 10-year Treasury yield.<\/p>\n<p>Like the earnings geek that i am, from the early 2000&#8217;s this number has been calculated weekly on the spreadsheet, but it&#8217;s rarely discussed, since I tried to write an article on it once for a 3rd party blog and the readers confused it with the &#8220;equity risk premium&#8221; and it was such a convoluted discussion, I never tried to write about it again.<\/p>\n<p>Well here goes: here is a recent history of the Thomson &#8220;market risk premium&#8221; from the spreadsheet work done weekly, after updating SP 500 earnings data from &#8220;This Week in Earnings&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9251\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9251\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?attachment_id=9251\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9251\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-9251\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/thomosnMRP81619-300x31.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"31\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/thomosnMRP81619-300x31.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/thomosnMRP81619-768x80.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/thomosnMRP81619-1024x106.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/thomosnMRP81619.png 1845w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9251\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">click to open \/ enhance \/ enlarge<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Again, this is not an &#8220;equity risk premium&#8221; (so please be forewarned) but the Thomson &#8220;market risk premium&#8221; now shows stocks at their most attractive level since late December &#8217;18.<\/p>\n<p>Here are the last 3 week&#8217;s prints for the Thomson MRP:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>8\/16\/19:<\/strong><\/em> 11.41%<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>8\/9\/19:<\/strong><\/em> 11.17%<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>8\/2\/19:<\/strong><\/em> 11.05%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Here was the MRP at the 6\/31\/19 low for the SP 500 after the 5% May &#8217;19 correction:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>5\/31\/09:<\/strong><\/em> 11.09%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Here was the MRP in late December &#8217;18:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>1\/4\/19: <\/strong><\/em>11.20%<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>12\/28\/19:<\/strong><\/em> 11.06%<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>12\/21\/19:<\/strong><\/em> 11.23%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em><strong>Current SP 500 earnings data: by the numbers:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>Fwd 4-qtr est:<\/strong><\/em> $172.09 vs $172.26 from last week<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>PE ratio:<\/strong><\/em> 16.x<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>PEG (fwd):<\/strong><\/em> 9.8x<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>PEG (TTM):<\/strong><\/em> 3.5x<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>SP 500 earnings yield:<\/strong><\/em> +5.95% vs last week&#8217;s +5.90%<\/li>\n<li><em><strong>Year-over-year growth of fwd est:<\/strong><\/em> +1.71% vs +1.78% last week, and a very low expected growth rate<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Source: IBES by Refinitiv&#8217;s &#8220;This Week in Earnings&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Summary \/ Conclusion:\u00a0 <\/strong><\/em>Readers should truly take all metrics and valuation work and all opinions with substantial skepticism since &#8211; as we found out in 2008 when the SP 500 peaked at 16x earnings &#8211; valuations can look reasonable and &#8211; at least with that recession &#8211; the bottom fell out even when the Fed was sanguine, or at least less worried. Undoubtedly, the elevated MRP from Thomson is being helped by that exceptionally low 10-year Treasury yield, although &#8220;forward 4-quarter&#8221; SP 500 earnings are still growing, and haven&#8217;t fallen off the table as they did starting in August, September, 2008.<\/p>\n<p>Since August 1, &#8217;19, the corporate high yield market is down 98 basis points or just a smidge less than 1% even though the SP 500 is down about 5% from the late July &#8217;18 all-time-high for the SP 500,so again we aren&#8217;t seeing too much &#8220;recession&#8221; concern by the credit markets (yet).<\/p>\n<p>Looking back at the history, the Thomson MRP was above 11% for\u00a040 weeks in 2016, from early January through mid to late October, 2016.<\/p>\n<p>When Michael Thompson and John Butter were still around and still managing &#8220;This Week in Earnings&#8221; the weekly missive did note that with the Nasdaq in the late 1990&#8217;s and early 2000&#8217;s, the MRP did fall into the 2% &#8211; 3% range, which makes sense, since the Nasdaq 100 trading at 100x earnings during that time, implied a 0% cost-of-capital as former Chairman Greenspan noted in a few of his speeches.<\/p>\n<p>The MRP is a relative risk or relative value measure with the lower readings implying stocks are expensive, and higher readings suggesting that stocks are cheaper.<\/p>\n<p>Each time the MRP has gotten over 11, it usually portends positively for forward or &#8220;expected&#8221; SP 500 returns.<\/p>\n<p>Out with more this weekend &#8211; thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(This blog post was written Friday night, August 16th but inadvertently saved as a &#8220;draft&#8221; instead of being published. 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