{"id":9169,"date":"2019-07-07T17:08:11","date_gmt":"2019-07-07T17:08:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=9169"},"modified":"2019-07-07T17:08:11","modified_gmt":"2019-07-07T17:08:11","slug":"sp-500-earnings-expectations-as-low-as-2016-lets-compare-the-periods","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=9169","title":{"rendered":"SP 500 Earnings Expectations as Low as 2016 &#8211; Let&#8217;s Compare the Periods"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_9170\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9170\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?attachment_id=9170\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9170\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-9170\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SP500revEPSgrobackto20167519-300x130.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"130\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SP500revEPSgrobackto20167519-300x130.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SP500revEPSgrobackto20167519-768x332.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SP500revEPSgrobackto20167519-1024x442.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/SP500revEPSgrobackto20167519.png 1542w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9170\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">click to enlarge \/ enhance<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Source: IBES by Refinitiv sector data<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Here is the historical EPS and revenue growth by sector for the SP 500, which helps us compare and contrast what went on in late 2015, early 2016, with today&#8217;s growth rates (or lack thereof).<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Expected revenue growth for Q2 &#8217;19 is still positive albeit low single digits, while SP 500 revenue growth went negative in late &#8217;15, early &#8217;16.<\/li>\n<li>Energy and Basic Materials are both expecting y\/y decline in earnings growth, although Energy as a sector is holding up much better than in early &#8217;16, when crude oil fell to $28 per barrel in late January &#8217;16.<\/li>\n<li>Technology earnings are negative in both periods: in mid-2015 China started devaluing the yuan, which impacted Apple, and Apple was going through a product transition as well, so what impact&#8217;s Apple, impacts Tech.<\/li>\n<li>The Communications Services sector hadn&#8217;t been created by early &#8217;16 so it was still part of Tech back then.<\/li>\n<li>The biggest negative revision between early &#8217;16 and Q2 &#8217;19 is in the Consumer Discretionary sector, and within the XLY (Consumer Discretionary ETF), the biggest weights are Amazon (AMZN), Home Depot (HD) and McDonald&#8217;s (MCD) which comprise together 43% of the ETF, while Amazon is 23% of the total ETF.\u00a0 In late 2015, early 2016, Consumer Discretionary EPS averaged 17%, while &#8220;expected&#8221; EPS growth in Q2 &#8217;19 is 0%. Revenue growth averaged 5.7% in Q4 &#8217;15 through Q2 &#8217;16, while the average revenue growth expected from Q1 &#8217;16 and Q2 &#8217;16 is 3.9% &#8211; 4%.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><em><strong>Summary \/ Conclusion: <\/strong><\/em>Michael Santoli of CNBC did a good job with a segment on Friday, July 15th, noting that SP 500 earnings expectations now as low as early &#8217;16, but the sector data above will help in the similarities and differences. What may be more interesting for readers is that &#8220;compare&#8217;s&#8221; get easier for the SP 500 AFTER we get Q2 &#8217;19 quarterly financial results, so keep an eye on Q3 and Q4 &#8217;19 estimates.<\/p>\n<p>Up 18% as of June 30, the SP 500 has had a good year already and is trading at an all-time-high this week, but the SP 500 itself is up just 4% &#8211; 5% from the Jan &#8217;18 high of 2,872.87 and is up just 1% &#8211; 2% over the late Sept &#8217;18 highs of 2,954.<\/p>\n<p>It will be interesting to see what happens in the Consumer Discretionary sector, and what their financial results hold. (Long AMZN, far smaller longs in HD, MCD).<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Source: IBES by Refinitiv sector data &nbsp; Here is the historical EPS and revenue growth by sector for the SP&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[100,114],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9169","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-consumer-discretionary","category-sp-500-revenue-growth"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9169","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9169"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9169\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9173,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9169\/revisions\/9173"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9169"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9169"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9169"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}