{"id":8394,"date":"2018-11-10T14:28:33","date_gmt":"2018-11-10T14:28:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=8394"},"modified":"2018-11-10T14:28:33","modified_gmt":"2018-11-10T14:28:33","slug":"do-we-see-p-e-expansion-or-p-e-contraction-in-2019","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=8394","title":{"rendered":"Do we see P.E Expansion or P.E Contraction in 2019 ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A little more discussion on 2019 SP 500 EPS estimates and looking into next year.<\/p>\n<p>Staying away from sector estimates for now, how have 2019 &#8220;bottom-up&#8221; annual EPS estimates tracked for the SP 500 over 2018 ?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_8397\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8397\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?attachment_id=8397\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-8397\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-8397\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019SPEPSdollarest111018-1-300x66.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"66\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019SPEPSdollarest111018-1-300x66.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019SPEPSdollarest111018-1.png 465w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-8397\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click to enhance \/ enlarge<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Readers should see both the &#8220;dollar&#8221; SP 500 EPS estimates for the next few years and the expected percentage change, so you can understand the dynamics of what happens within estimate modeling.<\/p>\n<p>As readers can see, the 2019 SP 500 estimate has remained fairly stable throughout 2018, although 2019 has slipped a percentage point in expected growth the last few weeks, with the &#8220;consensus&#8221; now expecting 9% versus 10% growth for most of 2018.<\/p>\n<p>Really what I think happened is that those analysts \/ strategists putting in a 2019 EPS dollar estimate just plugged in 10% growth for 2019 as the 2018 dollar estimate rose rapidly.<\/p>\n<p>The other aspect to the numbers is that the dramatic ramp in expected 2018 EPS dollar estimates should be noted throughout this past year: as the denominator is pushed higher on the 2019\/2018 growth expectation, 2019 will look marginally slower.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Summary \/ conclusion: <\/strong><\/em>The goal with <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=8387\">last night&#8217;s<\/a> and this blog post was not to be bullish or bearish the SP 500, but rather to just show the numbers and let readers see how the math works.<\/p>\n<p>2018&#8217;s actual y\/y SP 500 earnings growth of 23% will be the strongest since 2004&#8217;s 21% but this is now history.\u00a0A return to an expected 10% SP 500 EPS growth in 2019 is completely normal.<\/p>\n<p>I do think the market at this juncture is trying to figure out what 2019 will look like in terms of the SP 500&#8217;s expected return.<\/p>\n<p>The key question is do we see &#8220;P.E expansion or P.E contraction&#8221; in 2019 ?<\/p>\n<p>We saw sharp P.E contraction in 2018 as tax cuts saw the SP 500 estimate grow 23% versus last year while the SP 500 is returning just single digits this year, <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=7439\">as we expected last December &#8217;17<\/a>. The SP 500&#8217;s return in 2018 is actually a little light relative to our December &#8217;17 forecast but let&#8217;s see what the last 6 weeks of 2018 holds.)<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s the big question for next year &#8211; will the SP 500 P.E expand or contract ?<\/p>\n<p>Inquiring minds want to know.<\/p>\n<p>If Fed Chair Powell calls &#8220;uncle&#8221; on tightening monetary policy and the Fed balance sheet contraction, while President Trump makes a reasonable deal with China on trade, (and President Xi made a very bullish speech about trade barriers and tariffs last Sunday night, 11\/4\/18) that got very little press from the mainstream financial media), you could see a double-digit return next year for the SP 500 on what could be 9% &#8211; 10% SP 500 earnings growth, next year.<\/p>\n<p>That isn&#8217;t a forecast (yet) though.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A little more discussion on 2019 SP 500 EPS estimates and looking into next year. 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