{"id":7424,"date":"2017-12-15T00:28:06","date_gmt":"2017-12-15T00:28:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=7424"},"modified":"2017-12-15T00:28:06","modified_gmt":"2017-12-15T00:28:06","slug":"will-2018-be-a-year-of-p-e-contraction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=7424","title":{"rendered":"Will 2018 be a Year of &#8220;P.E Contraction&#8221; ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Suddenly all the prognosticators are bullish.<\/p>\n<p>Individual investor sentiment had risen the last few weeks: Bespoke put out their graph today on investor sentiment:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?attachment_id=7425\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-7425\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-7425\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/bespokesentiment121617-300x258.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"258\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/bespokesentiment121617-300x258.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/bespokesentiment121617-768x661.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/bespokesentiment121617.png 822w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Here is the data:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<table width=\"461\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"145\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"145\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"89\"><\/td>\n<td width=\"82\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>Actual dollar EPS<\/strong><\/em><\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>SP 500<\/strong><\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>SP 500<\/strong><\/em><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>Y\/Y gro<\/strong><\/em><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>Total return<\/strong><\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Calendar &#8217;19 (est)<\/td>\n<td>$160.81<\/td>\n<td>10%<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Calendar &#8217;18 (est)<\/td>\n<td>$146.24<\/td>\n<td>11%<\/td>\n<td><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>calendar 2017 (est)<\/td>\n<td>$131.47<\/td>\n<td>11%<\/td>\n<td>20.0%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2016- actual<\/td>\n<td>$118.10<\/td>\n<td>1%<\/td>\n<td>12.5%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2015 &#8211; actual<\/td>\n<td>$117.46<\/td>\n<td>-1%<\/td>\n<td>1.380%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2014 &#8211; actual<\/td>\n<td>$118.78<\/td>\n<td>8%<\/td>\n<td>13.69%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2013 &#8211; actual<\/td>\n<td>$109.68<\/td>\n<td>6%<\/td>\n<td>32.40%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2012 &#8211; actual<\/td>\n<td>$103.80<\/td>\n<td>6%<\/td>\n<td>16.00%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2011 &#8211; actual<\/td>\n<td>$97.82<\/td>\n<td>15%<\/td>\n<td>2.11%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>2010 &#8211; actual<\/td>\n<td>$85.28<\/td>\n<td>40%<\/td>\n<td>15.06%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Source: Morningstar Stocks, Bonds, Bills &amp; Inflation (except earnings data which is from Thomson Reuters I\/B\/E\/S)<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Analysis \/ conclusion: <\/strong><\/em>Just thinking out loud about 2018 and the one thing that jumped out this past weekend, is that we haven&#8217;t seen a year of P.E contraction since 2011. (Look at the table, and compare earnings growth vs SP 500 return for 2010 and 2011.)<\/p>\n<p>That is a stretch of 7 years.<\/p>\n<p>Looking back at the 1982 &#8211; 1990 bull market, (and Thomson earnings data starts in 1985 on my spreadsheet) there were just 4 years where we saw &#8220;P.E contraction&#8221; in the 18 year bull market, and that was 1989, 1993, 1994 and 1995.<\/p>\n<p>1993 was the final year of the RTC corporation and the bank bailout after the commercial mortgage and real estate crisis of the late 1980&#8217;s and early 1990&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>1994 was the 6 rate increases by Greenspan which shut down the market even though SP 500 earnings grew 20%.<\/p>\n<p>What shocks me is that in 1995, for those who remember the 36% return on the SP 500, and the start of the Tech and large-cap growth phase &#8211; SP 500 earnings grew a whopping 40% that year. (I did not know that until looking closely at the data tonight.)<\/p>\n<p>Just navel-gazing before this weekend.<\/p>\n<p>Usually P.E contraction occurs when, the Fed&#8217;s active (however 1994 was a huge surprise for the market &#8211; Greenspan shocked everybody that year), or some other &#8220;extreme&#8221; aspect to the capital markets happens.<\/p>\n<p>We only know when something is a surprise when it happens.<\/p>\n<p>More this weekend.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Suddenly all the prognosticators are bullish. 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