{"id":6773,"date":"2017-03-15T16:46:23","date_gmt":"2017-03-15T16:46:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=6773"},"modified":"2017-03-16T16:41:52","modified_gmt":"2017-03-16T16:41:52","slug":"are-investors-facing-a-decade-of-flat-to-negative-bond-market-returns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=6773","title":{"rendered":"Are Investors Facing a Decade of Flat to Negative Bond Market Returns ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There is a whole generation of investors that think that bonds and bond funds, and bond ETF&#8217;s are &#8220;safe&#8221;, i.e. low risk of loss, modest returns, etc. And that has been true for a while.<\/p>\n<p>In the late 1990&#8217;s, the SP 500 returned 143% from 1995 to December 31, 1999.<\/p>\n<p>Sir John Templeton said at one point in the late 1990&#8217;s that investors were facing a decade of flat returns in the equity market and he turned out to be exactly right.<\/p>\n<p>The total, cumulative return for the SP 500 following the late 1990&#8217;s, from January 1, 2000 through December 31, 2009, was 12.5, which roughly averaged just 1% &#8211; 1.5% per year.<\/p>\n<p>The point of this is that no one is talking &#8220;mean-reversion&#8221; for the global bond markets, or even flat returns.<\/p>\n<p>Several times a year I do a conference call with a group of small advisors like myself, and we discuss historical bond returns: one thoughtful advisor doesn&#8217;t think fixed-income returns are &#8220;mean-reverting&#8221; since inflation isn&#8217;t mean-reverting, a perspective i never considered.<\/p>\n<p>However, given the results of Presidential election and the change in Congress to a &#8220;pro-economic-growth, pro-business&#8221; agenda, both inflation, and more importantly &#8220;reflation&#8221; are being reconsidered.<\/p>\n<p>The other aspect to this that investors don&#8217;t consider is that it isn&#8217;t necessarily inflation, but &#8220;inflationary expectations&#8221; that impact bond prices and interest rates.<\/p>\n<p>So much of this depends on the fiscal policies being debated Congress today. From health care reform, to comprehensive tax reform, to cash repatriation, all these &#8220;reforms&#8221; will change incentives, and once you change incentives, economics takes its proper course.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, the Developed European Markets and the Emerging Markets are starting to show signs of improvement, economic stirring that hasn&#8217;t been seen in 10 years.<\/p>\n<p>The US and the rest of the globe have been caught in this post-2008, dis-inflationary spiral for 8 &#8211; 9 years now, and that is beginning to change.<\/p>\n<p>It will be interesting to see what crude oil does &#8211; Energy still matters to inflation measures.<\/p>\n<p>Watch the 10-year Treasury yield: the levels &#8220;everyone&#8221; is watching is 2.62% and then the December &#8217;13 high of 3.04%.<\/p>\n<p>Through these levels, particularly the &#8217;13 high and balanced portfolio&#8217;s and bond funds will get interesting.<\/p>\n<p>To be clear, I was wrong about the &#8220;return-to-global-growth&#8221; theme for most of the post-2008 era. Client balanced and bond accounts hold some &#8220;strategic&#8221; funds which have &#8220;go anywhere&#8221; biases, but the accounts have primarily been in cash, with a position in the TBF, or the unlevered Treasury short.<\/p>\n<p>It is puzzling that no one thinks the bond market can see real pain &#8211; like the stock market in the early 2000&#8217;s or 2008. Maybe not to that degree, but we could see a longer period of flat returns in my opinion.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is a whole generation of investors that think that bonds and bond funds, and bond ETF&#8217;s are &#8220;safe&#8221;, i.e.&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[184,185,50,69,113,72,155],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6773","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-184","category-2017-fiscal-policy","category-bond-markets","category-interest-rates","category-reversion-to-the-mean","category-tlt","category-treasuries"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6773","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6773"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6773\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6779,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6773\/revisions\/6779"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6773"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6773"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6773"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}