{"id":6591,"date":"2017-01-01T20:37:44","date_gmt":"2017-01-01T20:37:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=6591"},"modified":"2017-01-01T20:37:44","modified_gmt":"2017-01-01T20:37:44","slug":"weekly-earnings-update-can-q4-16-earnings-top-q3-16","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=6591","title":{"rendered":"Weekly Earnings Update: Can Q4 &#8217;16 Earnings Top Q3 &#8217;16 ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=6345\">Here<\/a> was the forecast for Q3 &#8217;16 at the start of Q4 &#8217;16. Per Thomson Reuters, which is my primary earnings data provider, actual Q3 &#8217;16 earnings grew 4.3%, but Ex-Energy, SP 500 earnings grew 7.9%.<\/p>\n<p>Pretty good growth.<\/p>\n<p>For readers, the important aspect to Q4 &#8217;16&#8217;s earnings is that the Energy Sector is no longer a drag on the SP 500 and that SP 500 earnings and revenue will look more &#8220;normal&#8221; relative to the last 10 &#8211; 15 years, than the period from late 2014, through Q3 &#8217;16.<\/p>\n<p>Here is a table (see below) from David Aurelio of Thomson sent in late November &#8217;16. Note how the influence of Energy is ending with Q3 &#8217;16.<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s interesting to me looking at the data again is to note how the revenue growth slowly ebbed as we moved away from the Financial\/Mortgage\/Housing Crisis bounce, moving into 2011, 2012, etc. If the President-elect and Congress can manage to NOT fritter away the pro-economic-growth opportunity American voters have provided them, investors could see a sustained window of healthy, and above average (at least in terms of the last 8 years) earnings and revenue growth.<\/p>\n<p>Much can go wrong, simply due to President-elect Trump being the &#8220;known unknown&#8221; and how he will actually come down on critical issues, but the Cabinet appointments continue to indicate a very pro-economic-growth, pro-business and ultimately pro-market tendency.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ll know pretty soon. (Readers are owed an earnings update on the Health Care sector given that it was the only sector in &#8217;16 with a negative return. Need to post that in the next few days.)<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table width=\"376\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"5\" width=\"376\"><strong>S&amp;P 500: Y\/Y Blended Growth Rates<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"5\" width=\"376\">Source: Thomson Reuters I\/B\/E\/S<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\"><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\" width=\"152\"><strong>Earnings<\/strong><\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\" width=\"152\"><strong>Revenue<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\"><strong>Period<\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"68\"><strong>S&amp;P 500<\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"84\"><strong>Ex-Energy<\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"68\"><strong>S&amp;P 500<\/strong><\/td>\n<td width=\"84\"><strong>Ex-Energy<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2018Q2E<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">11.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">10.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">4.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">4.7%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2018Q1E<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">11.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">10.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">5.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">4.5%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2017Q4E<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">14.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">11.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">5.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.9%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2017Q3E<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">9.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">6.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.3%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2017Q2E<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">11.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">8.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">6.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.8%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2017Q1E<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">14.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">9.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">8.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">5.2%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2016Q4E<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">6.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">4.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">4.4%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2016Q3E<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">4.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">7.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">2.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">4.5%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2016Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-2.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">2.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-0.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">2.5%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2016Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-5.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">0.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-1.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">1.5%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2015Q4<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-2.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-3.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">0.9%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2015Q3<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-0.8%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-4.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">1.0%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2015Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">1.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">8.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-3.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">1.5%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2015Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">2.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">10.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-3.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">2.4%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2014Q4<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">7.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">10.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">2.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">4.8%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2014Q3<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">10.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">10.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">4.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">5.3%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2014Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">8.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">7.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">4.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">4.9%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2014Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">5.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">2.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.4%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2013Q4<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">9.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">12.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">1.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">1.7%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2013Q3<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">6.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">8.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">3.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.7%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2013Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">4.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">2.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.6%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2013Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">5.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">0.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.2%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2012Q4<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">6.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">3.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.3%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2012Q3<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">0.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">2.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-0.8%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">2.0%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2012Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">8.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">13.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">0.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.6%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2012Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">8.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">9.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">5.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">5.2%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2011Q4<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">9.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">8.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">6.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">5.7%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2011Q3<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">18.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">13.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">11.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">8.6%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2011Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">12.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">8.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">13.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">10.6%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2011Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">18.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">16.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">9.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.7%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2010Q4<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">37.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">36.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">8.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.9%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2010Q3<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">31.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">31.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">7.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.2%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2010Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">38.8%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">33.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">8.8%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">6.4%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2010Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">58.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">57.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">11.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">8.1%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2009Q4<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">205.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">414.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">7.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">8.9%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2009Q3<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-14.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">0.9%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-10.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-2.4%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2009Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-27.3%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-17.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-14.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-6.6%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2009Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-35.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-30.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-11.4%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-5.5%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2008Q4<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-67.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-77.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-9.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-7.3%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2008Q3<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-19.0%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-32.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">8.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">2.1%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2008Q2<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-22.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-29.7%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">10.1%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">4.8%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"72\">2008Q1<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">-17.5%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">-24.2%<\/td>\n<td width=\"68\">7.6%<\/td>\n<td width=\"84\">3.6%<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Source: Thomson Reuters<\/p>\n<p>Expected Q4 &#8217;16 Earnings by sector <em><strong>ranked from fastest to slowest expected growth<\/strong><\/em>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Financial&#8217;s +15.4%<\/li>\n<li>Utilities +10.5%<\/li>\n<li>Technology +7.8%<\/li>\n<li>Consumer Staples +6.1%<\/li>\n<li>SP 500 +6.1%<\/li>\n<li>Health Care +5.7%<\/li>\n<li>Materials +5%<\/li>\n<li>Energy +4.9%<\/li>\n<li>Consumer Discretionary +2.5%<\/li>\n<li>Telco -0.7%<\/li>\n<li>Real Estate -0.8%<\/li>\n<li>Industrials -3.7%<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Source: Thomson TWIE dated 12\/30\/16<\/p>\n<p>Two surprises: why are utilities earnings so strong and why is Industrial earnings growth so weak ?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here was the forecast for Q3 &#8217;16 at the start of Q4 &#8217;16. 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