{"id":33,"date":"2012-05-23T22:09:58","date_gmt":"2012-05-23T22:09:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=33"},"modified":"2012-06-26T15:55:26","modified_gmt":"2012-06-26T15:55:26","slug":"a-decade-or-more-of-sp-500-earnings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=33","title":{"rendered":"A decade (or more) of S&#038;P 500 earnings"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We prefer our blog posts short and sweet given the info overload inflicted on today&#8217;s average investor, so we&#8217;ll try to keep this post concise and to the point.<\/p>\n<p>What does a decade of p\/e compression look like for the average (or even institutional) investor ?<\/p>\n<p>Here is what we&#8217;ve seen the last 12 years:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Date\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 S&amp;P 500 value\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 forward est.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 p\/e ratio<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>3\/2000\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1,550\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 $55\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 28(x)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 height of tech bubble, peak for S&amp;P 500<\/p>\n<p>10\/2002\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0800\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 $53\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 19(x)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 bottom of tech bubble<\/p>\n<p>3\/2003\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 788\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 $54\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 15(x)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 start of Gulf War, end of Nasdaq bear market<\/p>\n<p>10\/2007\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 1,570\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 $103\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 15(x)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 double-top for S&amp;P 500, early stages of financial crisis<\/p>\n<p>3\/2009\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 667\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 $60\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 11(x)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 bottom of financial crisis in March, 2009<\/p>\n<p>5\/2012\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a01,300\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 $109\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 12(x)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 today&#8217;s market p\/e &#8211; note the all-time record earnings for the S&amp;P 500<\/p>\n<p>Anyone see a pattern here ? Important tops and bottoms were selected for obvious reasons, but the reader should likely see that no matter how earnings act, the market p\/e continues to compress over the last 12 years. In fact, despite 20% &#8211; 30% growth off the 2009 bottom, the S&amp;P 500 hasnt traded much over 15(x) earnings since then. Even during the 2003 &#8211; 2007 rally, the S&amp;P 500 multiple stayed roughly even with earnings growth at about 15(x) earnings.<\/p>\n<p>First, hopefully the above columns and data are easily readable in the post. ( I hope the process of posting doesnt goof up ( a technical term) the columns. Second, p\/e expansion is the hallmark of a bull market and makes all the long-only advisors look like a genius, while p\/e compression is the hallmark of bear markets and we are living through one, and you can see the power it wields on what are pretty good earnings.<\/p>\n<p>Someday this p\/e compression will stop and the stock market will start to afford equities some &#8220;earnings expansion&#8221; on the growth of the S&amp;P 500.<\/p>\n<p>However we are not there yet. It is discouraging.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe due to the volatility in earnings, the S&amp;P 500&#8217;s p\/e has compressed. Is it macro v. micro ? Is it Greece and China and\u00a0greater government regulation ?<\/p>\n<p>Inquiring minds want to know.<\/p>\n<p>No individual stocks mentioned<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We prefer our blog posts short and sweet given the info overload inflicted on today&#8217;s average investor, so we&#8217;ll try&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-earnings","category-sp-500"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=33"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":109,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33\/revisions\/109"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=33"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=33"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=33"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}