{"id":18848,"date":"2025-10-20T16:26:57","date_gmt":"2025-10-20T22:26:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=18848"},"modified":"2025-10-20T16:26:57","modified_gmt":"2025-10-20T22:26:57","slug":"netflix-earnings-preview-expectations-rather-meh-pre-earnings-likely-a-good-thing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=18848","title":{"rendered":"Netflix Earnings Preview: Expectations Rather &#8220;Meh&#8221; Pre-Earnings &#8211; Likely a Good Thing"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Reading some of the sell-side notes coming into Netflix&#8217;s (NFLX) Q3 &#8217;25 earnings release on Tuesday night, October 21, &#8217;25 after the market close, expectations for the streaming giant are quite subdued, which is usually a plus.<\/p>\n<p>The stock has traded in a narrow range the last few months, gyrating around it&#8217;s 50-day moving average at $1,214, although Monday, October 20th, NFLX closed up 3.25% to $1,238, on above-average volume.<\/p>\n<p>Analysts are expecting Netflix to earn $6.96 in earnings per share on $11.52 billion in revenue, for expected y-o-y growth of 29% and 17% respectively. Operating income is expected near $3.6 billion and to be 25% y-o-y.<\/p>\n<p>The back half of &#8217;24 Netflix put up some good numbers as the Netflix AD Suite started to engage with subscribers and then the 4th quarter of &#8217;24 was very strong, the point being that Netflix has tough comps with Q3 and Q4 &#8217;24 comparisons.<\/p>\n<p>In Q2 &#8217;25, Co-CEO Ted Sarandos noted on the conference call that &#8220;the back half of &#8217;25 is the best slate of new that we&#8217;ve ever had&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Operating Margin trends:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/NetflixMarginHistory102125.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-18850\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/NetflixMarginHistory102125-300x52.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"52\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/NetflixMarginHistory102125-300x52.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/NetflixMarginHistory102125-1024x178.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/NetflixMarginHistory102125-150x26.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/NetflixMarginHistory102125-768x134.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/NetflixMarginHistory102125-1536x268.png 1536w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/NetflixMarginHistory102125.png 1556w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Readers can see Netflix&#8217;s operating margin history in the middle of this common-size income statement, which shows that Netflix&#8217;s operating margin has moved over 30% the last two quarters, while Q2 &#8217;25 guidance seemed to indicate that the operating margin might be flat in the 2nd half of &#8217;25 (possibly due to the tough compares from last year).<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Valuation:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Closing at $1,238 today on Monday October 20 &#8217;25, Netflix is trading at 47x earnings for expected EPS growth of 33% in 2025, so the stock is somewhat cheaper vs it&#8217;s expected &#8217;25 EPS growth rate.<\/p>\n<p>That being said the 3-year average expected EPS growth rate is 26%, on a 3-year average expected revenue growth rate of 13%, and an average PE of 39x so there is little room for disappointment.<\/p>\n<p>Price-to-sales is roughly 10x &#8211; 11x (trailing twelve-months or TTM) and the cash-flow valuations are 59x and 64x respectively on a TTM basis.<\/p>\n<p>Netflix has doubled TTM free-cash-flow from June &#8217;23&#8217;s $4.2 billion to June &#8217;25&#8217;s $8.45 billion.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Conclusion \/ summary:<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0 The Netflix Ad suite and the live sports ventures (Netflix wants to bid for Champion&#8217;s League rights in Europe), and has already contracted to live-stream the New York Yankees Opening Day in &#8217;26. On September 15th, 16 million watched the boxing watch where Terence Crawford beat Canelo Alvarez, which will be part of this quarter&#8217;s earnings release Tuesday night.<\/p>\n<p>While Netflix is no longer reporting new membership growth, as US &amp; Canada growth has slowed, the new metric moving forward will be pricing under the new ad tier and ultimately revenue per subscriber.\u00a0On the q2 &#8217;25 conference call, management guided to the upper end of the revenue range, and my guess is that operating margins will be a little better-than-expected.<\/p>\n<p>Still Morningstar sees Netflix as holding only a narrow, competitive moat, (surprising given Bob Iger&#8217;s comments in the last 18 months), and the emergence of YouTube rather other streaming services as a reasonable competitor.<\/p>\n<p>I like the rather blase&#8217; attitude around Netflix&#8217;s earnings pre-report. Rampant bullishness is no good, while rampant bearishness can leave investors wondering it it&#8217;s worth the risk stepping in front that sentiment.<\/p>\n<p>The real risk around this stock is the example set by the trading action from late, 2021, when Netflix peaked at $700 per share, and ultimately bottomed in the ensuing 9 months, near $160 per share. That kind of volatility is hair-raising, but fortunately most of this present 3% position in the stock was bought after the bounce in the stock started in mid-2022.<\/p>\n<p>None of this is advice or a recommendation, but only an opinion. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. None of this information may be updated and if updated, may not be done so in a timely fashion.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reading some of the sell-side notes coming into Netflix&#8217;s (NFLX) Q3 &#8217;25 earnings release on Tuesday night, October 21, &#8217;25&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[216],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18848","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-netflix"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18848","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18848"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18848\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18855,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18848\/revisions\/18855"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18848"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18848"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18848"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}