{"id":18318,"date":"2025-07-06T14:35:11","date_gmt":"2025-07-06T20:35:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=18318"},"modified":"2025-07-06T14:35:11","modified_gmt":"2025-07-06T20:35:11","slug":"sp-500-earnings-nothing-much-this-week-but-dont-ignore-non-correlated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=18318","title":{"rendered":"SP 500 Earnings: Nothing Much This Week, but Don&#8217;t Ignore Non-Correlated"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SP500expected2025EPSrevgrorates7325.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-18319\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SP500expected2025EPSrevgrorates7325-300x117.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"117\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SP500expected2025EPSrevgrorates7325-300x117.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SP500expected2025EPSrevgrorates7325-1024x401.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SP500expected2025EPSrevgrorates7325-150x59.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SP500expected2025EPSrevgrorates7325-768x300.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SP500expected2025EPSrevgrorates7325.png 1516w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the updated spreadsheet with LSEG data showing the progression of earnings and revenue growth for expected Q2 and Q3 &#8217;25.<\/p>\n<p>Frankly, all investors care about is &#8220;actual&#8221; Q2 &#8217;25 EPS results which start the week beginning July 14th, and what the guidance for Q3 &#8217;25 (and the rest of 2025) looks like.<\/p>\n<p>President Trump looks like he is starting &#8220;Tariffs Round 2&#8221; on Monday, July 7th.<\/p>\n<p>How did Q1 &#8217;25 perform in terms of expectations vs actual ? Pretty solid actually, as <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=18007\">this blog post from late April &#8217;25<\/a> showed. This pattern repeats itself every quarter.<\/p>\n<p>The above table shows the progression of Q1 &#8217;25 EPS and revenue, after hitting its nadir in late March, early April, &#8217;25. From the &#8220;expected EPS growth&#8221; low point for Q1 &#8217;25, the actual growth almost doubled by the end of June &#8217;25.<\/p>\n<p>You wouldn&#8217;t think the SP 500, the Nasdaq Composite, and the Nasdaq 100, would have made all-time-highs last week, if tariff or stagflation, or whatever else the Fed is worried about were sitting under the surface.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s an opinion. Remember it could all be wrong. And remember too, the tariffs are all about the deficit with the ultimate goal of reducing the deficit from 7% of GDP. It does appear that Treasury Secretary Bissent has lowered &#8220;expected&#8221; tariff revenue from $700 &#8211; $800 billion which he provided in early April &#8217;25, to $400 billion currently, which is the last estimate I personally saw. I do hope Treasury Secretary Bissent refreshes his \/ Treasury projections about tariff revenue this week, with the expected new round of tariff headlines due to come forth from President Trump&#8217;s desk.<\/p>\n<p>(Here&#8217;s one final note on the tariffs: Nike reported their fiscal Q4 in late June &#8217;25, and noted that they expected a $1 billion &#8220;cost&#8221; to tariffs, and while I haven&#8217;t yet read the conference call notes, I assumed the &#8220;$1 billion cost&#8221; comment was for their fiscal &#8217;26 estimate since fiscal &#8217;25 ended in May &#8217;25. With 1.44 billion shares outstanding that&#8217;s a $0.63 hit to earnings for the current fiscal year. The stock actually bottomed with that earnings release, and is now $13 higher than the 3 pm close on the day it reported. It&#8217;s unlikely all potential tariff costs are in the SP 500 EPS estimates but looking back at 2017 &#8211; 2018, the companies back then that were impacted tended to adjust their P\/L&#8217;s within a couple of quarters.)<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Looking for non-correlated:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>If readers are looking for &#8220;uncorrelated&#8221; or &#8220;non-correlated&#8221; stocks (and non-correlated is the MBA way of saying your stock, or asset-class has performed remarkably poorly), asset classes, don&#8217;t forget the small and mid-cap (SMID) space. This <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=18305\">blog post from last week<\/a>, showed the under-performance of both small and mid-caps, but charts tell the story better:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2010to63025.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-18324\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2010to63025-300x193.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"193\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2010to63025-300x193.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2010to63025-1024x658.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2010to63025-150x96.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2010to63025-768x493.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2010to63025.png 1412w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The above chart shows the Russell 2000 total return vs the SP 500 total return and the MDY or Mid-Cap 400 ETF from January1, 2010, to June 30 &#8217;25.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2015tojune3025.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-18325\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2015tojune3025-300x196.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"196\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2015tojune3025-300x196.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2015tojune3025-1024x670.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2015tojune3025-150x98.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2015tojune3025-768x503.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/SPYvsSMID2015tojune3025.png 1396w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This above chart shows the same three indices from 2015 to June 30 &#8217;25 and the underperformance of SMID vis-a-vis the SP 500 total return look worse.<\/p>\n<p>Small and mid-cap and international and value all dramatically outperformed after the SP 500 peaked in March, 2000. AI and momentum is (are) still leading the style-box groups if you adopt a narrower focus, but that will end someday.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s already a shift happening within the Mag7 and Mag-10. Doubts about Alphabet and Apple have depressed the stock prices. Maybe the Mag-7, Mag-10 and technology underperformance will be a gradual fade when this bull market ends, versus the mid-March, 2000, complete bust that happened in March, 2000.<\/p>\n<p>Small and mid-caps are not heavily trafficked or chatted about on the financial media, which might be the time to start adding to them in small allocations.<\/p>\n<p>None of this is advice or a recommendation, but only an opinion. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. None of this information may be updated, and if updated may not be done so in a timely fashion.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s the updated spreadsheet with LSEG data showing the progression of earnings and revenue growth for expected Q2 and Q3&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[331,90,91],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18318","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-alphabet","category-apple-aapl","category-weekly-earnings-update"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18318","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18318"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18318\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18330,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18318\/revisions\/18330"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18318"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18318"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18318"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}