{"id":18064,"date":"2025-05-13T12:51:35","date_gmt":"2025-05-13T18:51:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=18064"},"modified":"2025-05-13T12:51:35","modified_gmt":"2025-05-13T18:51:35","slug":"cisco-earnings-preview-the-networking-giant-has-averaged-3-revenue-growth-pear-year-since-2010","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=18064","title":{"rendered":"Cisco Earnings Preview: The Networking Giant has Averaged 3% Revenue Growth pear Year since 2010"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Cisco (CSCO) reports their fiscal Q3 &#8217;25 after the closing bell on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025, with sell-side consensus expecting (per Briefing.com) $0.92 in earnings per share on $14.05 billion in revenue, for expected year-over-year (y-o-y) growth of 5% and 11% respectively.<\/p>\n<p>LSEG data shows expectations of $0.92 in EPS, $14.08 billion in revenue growth and $4.7 billion in operating income, for y-o-y growth of 5%, 11% and 9% respectively.<\/p>\n<p>If you want one chart that detail&#8217;s Cisco&#8217;s progress over the years, here it is:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CiscovsSP50025years51325.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-18065\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CiscovsSP50025years51325-300x198.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"198\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CiscovsSP50025years51325-300x198.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CiscovsSP50025years51325-1024x676.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CiscovsSP50025years51325-150x99.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CiscovsSP50025years51325-768x507.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CiscovsSP50025years51325.png 1451w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you click on and expand the chart, Cisco&#8217;s total return has given up about 500 bp&#8217;s a year for the last 25 years relative to the SP 500 total return.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>What&#8217;s changed ?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Well nothing yet: Cisco paid $28 billion for Splunk, closing the deal in March, 2024, and since Splunk is Cisco&#8217;s entry into the security market, and security or cyber-security remains one of the fastest growing segments within tech, maybe there&#8217;s a chance to finally generate some revenue and cash-flow growth for the networking giant.<\/p>\n<p>For some portfolio&#8217;s Cisco could be a value way to play the cyber-security sector.<\/p>\n<p>EPS and revenue estimate revisions:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CSCOepsestimaterevisions51425.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-18067\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CSCOepsestimaterevisions51425-293x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"293\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CSCOepsestimaterevisions51425-293x300.png 293w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CSCOepsestimaterevisions51425-146x150.png 146w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/CSCOepsestimaterevisions51425.png 510w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 293px) 100vw, 293px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Cisco has seen some positive EPS estimate revisions since the summer of &#8217;24 (post Splunk) for the fiscal &#8217;25 and &#8217;26 years.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ciscorevenueestimaterevisions51325.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-18068\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ciscorevenueestimaterevisions51325-300x295.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"295\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ciscorevenueestimaterevisions51325-300x295.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ciscorevenueestimaterevisions51325-150x148.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/Ciscorevenueestimaterevisions51325.png 530w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Cisco revenue estimate revisions for 2025 and 2026 have also been steadily positive since the summer of 2024.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Summary \/ conclusion: <\/strong><\/em>Cisco&#8217;s all-time-high was $82 in April of 2000, and the stock hasn&#8217;t gotten close since after doing numerous (maybe hundreds) smaller dilutive acquisitions, which destroyed shareholder value and really didn&#8217;t leave the company or shareholders any more &#8220;enriched&#8221;.\u00a0 In July, 2025, Chuck Peters will be at the helm of Cisco for a full 10 years, and while the stock has performed better over that period &#8211; up +10% from July 1 &#8217;15 to May &#8217;12, 2025 &#8211; it&#8217;s still trailing the SP 500, but only by 105 basis points, which is a mild positive for Chuck.<\/p>\n<p>The big question seems to be whether Splunk can amount to anything meaningful at Cisco.<\/p>\n<p>Networking is still 50% of Cisco&#8217;s annual revenue, and at best grows at a mid-single-digit revenue rate, with some periods far less than that. While &#8220;security&#8221; at Cisco stagnated at 6% &#8211; 7% of revenue for years, by adding Splunk, security revenue is now 15% of total Cisco revenue. The integration is expected to take at least 8 quarters or two full years since the Splunk deal closed in March &#8217;24, so we will know more a year from now how Splunk is adding to Cisco&#8217;s organic growth.<\/p>\n<p>Morningstar has noted Cisco is not an AI player, and with Splunk, security will likely be a far bigger segment than AI.<\/p>\n<p>With security is Chuck Peters trying to convert Cisco from a hardware to software company ? Yes and no. IBM under Arvind Krishna is trying to do just that, and has met with some success, but Chuck Peters has been a Cisco-lifer, and to my knowledge hasn&#8217;t worked at anywhere in a leadership role, and so only knows Cisco as a hardware company.<\/p>\n<p>Since 2010, and using the official revenue estimates for fiscal &#8217;25 through &#8217;28, Cisco has averaged just 3% revenue growth per year.<\/p>\n<p>Since 2010, with the same constraints as revenue, Cisco EPS growth has averaged 7% per year.<\/p>\n<p>Until the networking giant can break the bounds of these constraints, and generate some revenue growth, the only real benefit to owning the stock is to own an &#8220;uncorrelated&#8221; or &#8220;non-correlated&#8221; tech name that the market has completely forgotten. The stock has completely sat out this 15-year secular bull market, which &#8211; if you think about &#8211; presents an opportunity in and of itself.<\/p>\n<p>Clients own a very small position &#8211; just waiting for some ray of light to commit more to the stock.<\/p>\n<p>Trading at $62 today, or 17x forward earnings with 0% expected EPS growth for fiscal 2025 (ends July &#8217;25), on 1% revenue growth, guidance will be a key component of Wednesday night&#8217;s earnings call.<\/p>\n<p>None of this is advice or a recommendation, but only an opinion. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.<\/p>\n<p>(Previous Cisco articles: <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=17713\">here<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=17223\">here<\/a>, and an article on Splunk <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=15932\">here<\/a> )<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cisco (CSCO) reports their fiscal Q3 &#8217;25 after the closing bell on Wednesday, May 14th, 2025, with sell-side consensus expecting&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[43],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-18064","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-csco"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18064","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=18064"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18064\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18075,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/18064\/revisions\/18075"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=18064"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=18064"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=18064"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}