{"id":15428,"date":"2024-02-29T14:51:59","date_gmt":"2024-02-29T20:51:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=15428"},"modified":"2024-02-29T14:51:59","modified_gmt":"2024-02-29T20:51:59","slug":"walmart-trades-to-new-all-time-high-before-amazon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=15428","title":{"rendered":"Walmart Trades to New All-Time-High Before Amazon"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Very few have noticed that Walmart (WMT) has traded to an all-time-high before the e-commerce juggernaut Amazon (AMZN) has done so. The 3-for-1 stock split recently likely helped Walmart push above it&#8217;s previous all-time-high of $56 and change last November &#8217;23, as it trades tonight around $59.<\/p>\n<p>Amazon hit an almost perfect &#8220;double-top&#8221; at $188 in July and November &#8217;21, and has yet to recover that level in the 27 months. It&#8217;s getting close, but it&#8217;s not there yet.<\/p>\n<p>Very few noticed too that Jeff Bezos&#8217; CEO resignation occurred right around the July &#8217;21 earnings report, so Jeff &#8220;top-ticked&#8221; his own stock with his resignation.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Quick recap of Walmart and Amazon earnings reports:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>In <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=15354\">Walmart&#8217;s earnings preview<\/a>, this blog talked about WMT being a margin story, but fiscal Q4 &#8217;24 was a gross margin story, with GM increasing 122 bp&#8217;s y.y, to 23.97% from Q4 &#8217;23 22.75%, rather than an operating margin story, which is what AI and supply-chain enhancements will deliver. To be frank, I was right for the wrong reasons, but the margin story is just getting started.<\/p>\n<p>Gross margin was helped by advertising which in the conference call notes, it was noted that advertising grew 28% y.y to $3.8 billion, still a small part of overall revenue, but it does fatten Walmart&#8217;s margins.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s an important comment on the conference call on grocery inflation (sourced from TheTranscript):<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/transcriptWalmartdeflationcomments22024.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-15431\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/transcriptWalmartdeflationcomments22024-300x247.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"247\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/transcriptWalmartdeflationcomments22024-300x247.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/transcriptWalmartdeflationcomments22024-150x123.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/transcriptWalmartdeflationcomments22024.png 606w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what jumped out about Walmart&#8217;s metrics:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/WMTepsesttrends22924.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-15432\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/WMTepsesttrends22924-298x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"298\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/WMTepsesttrends22924-298x300.png 298w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/WMTepsesttrends22924-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/WMTepsesttrends22924.png 420w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 298px) 100vw, 298px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Walmart management offered very tepid earnings guidance for their fiscal &#8217;25 (ends Jan &#8217;25), and it&#8217;s showed up the last two weeks in very little interest in raising &#8217;25, &#8217;26 or &#8217;27 EPS estimates.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/wmtrevrevisiontrends22924.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-15433\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/wmtrevrevisiontrends22924-300x278.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"278\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/wmtrevrevisiontrends22924-300x278.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/wmtrevrevisiontrends22924-150x139.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/wmtrevrevisiontrends22924.png 458w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>However, note the steady progression upward in Walmart revenue estimates, even after the &#8220;deflationary position&#8221; referenced above in TheTranscript note.<\/p>\n<p>Analysts are not shy about raising Walmart&#8217;s revenue estimates for the next few years.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Summary \/ conclusion: <\/strong><\/em>Walmart is JUST coming out of the 2021 and 2022 excess inventory issue, meaning it&#8217;s just the last few quarters that there has been a return to normal balance sheet and cash-flow metrics. For a secular &#8220;mid-single-digit&#8221; revenue grower and &#8220;high-single-digit&#8221; operating income and EPS grower, Walmart can continue to take share in grocery &#8211; grocery grew mid-single-digits y.y in the Jan &#8217;24 quarter &#8211; Walmart will need the margins to drive additional growth.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Amazon: great quarter, stock still trading below all-time-highs<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Amazon put up good growth in Q4 &#8217;23 against a tougher quarter in Q4 &#8217;22, but here&#8217;s the bigger, longer-term, change in Amazon for readers:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/AMZNhistoricalrevgrowth22924.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-15436\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/AMZNhistoricalrevgrowth22924-269x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"269\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/AMZNhistoricalrevgrowth22924-269x300.png 269w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/AMZNhistoricalrevgrowth22924-134x150.png 134w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/AMZNhistoricalrevgrowth22924.png 451w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 269px) 100vw, 269px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Amazon grew revenue growth y.o.y at a greater than 20% rate from 2000 to 2021 (one exception), but that revenue growth looks to have permanently slowed to half the previous two decades pace.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s manageable, as Amazon too (like Walmart) is focusing on margin.<\/p>\n<p>Advertising and AWS drove Q4 &#8217;23 for Amazon with a big upside beat in operating income for the ecommerce giant. Operating income of $13.2 billion beat the consensus of $10.4 billion (LSEG) generating a 26% upside surprise.<\/p>\n<p>Morningstar noted that Amazon&#8217;s 7.7% operating margin was the best for the 4th quarter in a decade.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Summary:<\/strong><\/em> No valuation talk in this post, rather it was just a note to highlight Walmart&#8217;s leadership relative to the SP 500 and how Amazon lags. Are we entering a period, where &#8211; despite the Mag 7 status &#8211; Amazon, Alphabet and Apple, are becoming mature businesses and the &#8220;growth&#8221; mantle is being passed to other sectors like the AI stocks ?<\/p>\n<p>Another metric I thought was interesting: Amazon generated $575 billion in revenue in calendar &#8217;23, and with it, cash-flow from operations for the same period was $85 billion. Walmart generated $648 billion in fiscal &#8217;24, and with it, cash-flow from operations for the same 12 months was $36 billion.<\/p>\n<p>Amazon still has the more efficient asset base, but Walmart is closing the ecommerce gap.<\/p>\n<p>None of this is advice or a recommendation. Past performance is no guarantee or suggestion of future results. Investing can involve the loss of principal, even for short-time periods. Readers should gauge their own comfort with portfolio and individual stock volatility, and adjust accordingly.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Very few have noticed that Walmart (WMT) has traded to an all-time-high before the e-commerce juggernaut Amazon (AMZN) has done&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[152,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15428","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-amazon","category-wmt"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15428","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=15428"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15428\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":15440,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15428\/revisions\/15440"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=15428"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=15428"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=15428"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}