{"id":14979,"date":"2023-12-11T09:04:49","date_gmt":"2023-12-11T15:04:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=14979"},"modified":"2023-12-11T09:07:15","modified_gmt":"2023-12-11T15:07:15","slug":"oracle-reports-tonight-stock-fairly-valued-as-cerner-impacts-margins","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=14979","title":{"rendered":"Oracle Reports Tonight: Stock Fairly Valued as Cerner Impacts Margins"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Oracle reports their fiscal Q2 &#8217;24 quarter after the close tonight, with sell-side consensus expecting $1.32 in earnings per share on $13.0 billion in revenue and operating income of $5.57 billion for expected y.y growth of 9%, 6% and 9% respectively.<\/p>\n<p>The last (August &#8217;23) quarter, the stock was hit hard after the software giant reduced this fiscal Q2&#8217;s guidance below what the sell-side was expecting, even though operating margin rose about 150 bp&#8217;s y.y.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s Oracle&#8217;s margin history since Covid:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLmarginhistory121123.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-14980\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLmarginhistory121123-300x34.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"34\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLmarginhistory121123-300x34.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLmarginhistory121123-1024x114.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLmarginhistory121123-150x17.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLmarginhistory121123-768x86.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLmarginhistory121123.png 1422w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Source: valuation spreadsheet from earnings reports.<\/p>\n<p>The $30 billion Cerner acquisition closed during the August &#8217;21 quarter.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLEPSrevisions121123-1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-14983\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLEPSrevisions121123-1-254x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"254\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLEPSrevisions121123-1-254x300.png 254w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLEPSrevisions121123-1-127x150.png 127w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/ORCLEPSrevisions121123-1.png 427w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 254px) 100vw, 254px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Source: IBES data by Refinitiv<\/p>\n<p>This history of Oracle&#8217;s EPS revisions shows that with the closure of the Cerner deal (August &#8217;22), EPS estimates started to get ratcheted lower, which is understandable since Oracle has a history of doing these very dilutive deals, and the dilution causes &#8220;fully-diluted shares outstanding&#8221; to increase, thus reducing EPS.<\/p>\n<p>There is nothing really out of the ordinary happening around Oracle&#8217;s stock price, other than the usual pressure of incorporating or consolidating another big acquisition, which always takes time.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Valuation: <\/strong><\/em>When Oracle reported their August &#8217;23 quarter last September, the fiscal &#8217;24 cloud growth of 30% was affirmed by management, but it wasn&#8217;t clear how much was organic. Trading at 18x EPS for an expected &#8220;average&#8221; EPS growth rate over the next 3 years of 12%, the stock is not at the upper end of it&#8217;s valuation range, and technically it&#8217;s been below it&#8217;s old high pre the Sept &#8217;23 earnings of $125 &#8211; $127, for the last 4 months.<\/p>\n<p>At 6x revenue and 17x cash-flow, it&#8217;s inline with other large-cap tech and software stocks, but as readers would expect Oracle never really looks truly cheap.<\/p>\n<p>The stock sports a 1.4% dividend yield. If you&#8217;re looking for dividend stocks, Oracle is probably not your best candidate. Years ago, I thought as the stock matured it would eventually sport a bigger dollar dividend and yield, but the large acquisitions Oracle&#8217;s business model requires, the current debt load, and the fact that free-cash-flow is typically negative after these big acquisitions, means the dividend will never really be a reason to buy the stock, but it certainly doesn&#8217;t hurt.<\/p>\n<p>Morningstar, like a number of sell-side analysts, thinks the cloud gap between Oracle and AWS is too big, and is a negative to the Oracle moat. This blog has a fair value for Oracle between $115 &#8211; $120, or right around where it&#8217;s trading, thus if we split the difference, Oracle might be worth owning if it falls below $100 per share.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Summary \/ conclusion: <\/strong><\/em>This blog has written about Oracle&#8217;s perceived quality issues, <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=14558\">most recently last September &#8217;23<\/a> but the fact is like the September &#8217;23 article states, the long-term performance of the stock, at least relative to the SP 500 and what&#8217;s probably considered the mega-cap quality standard in Microsoft, over the last 23 years, and this includes the nuclear winter for large-cap technology of 2000 to 2009, Oracle&#8217;s long-term performance relative to the SP 500 is downright envious.<\/p>\n<p>Tonight, after the Q2 &#8217;24 earnings report, the stock could be +\/- $10 per share. Trying to game stock direction after earnings reports is a far harder than playing the longer game of buy-and-hold. The point is I have no clue how the stock will respond to tonight&#8217;s earnings. No doubt fiscal &#8217;24 guidance will be updated, and maybe more importantly, as an analyst that adds acquisitions to capex when calculating free-cash-flow, the huge hit to free-cash-flow from the Cerner acquisition in August &#8217;22 will now fall-off and investors will get a better read on Oracle&#8217;s true free-cash-flow. (Readers might ask why include acquisitions in capex for free-cash-flow purposes, but for Oracle it&#8217;s especially important: as was noted in the above-linked Sept &#8217;23 earnings preview, Oracle&#8217;s free-cash-flow doesn&#8217;t always equal net income, which is somewhat unusual for a software stock, and that to me has always spoken to quality of earnings for Oracle, but again, as the performance chart from Ycharts show in the Sept &#8217;23 earnings, it&#8217;s never really impacted the stock price.)<\/p>\n<p>Prior to the September &#8217;23 earnings report, Oracle saw a number of upgrades to the stock, and it set investors up for a disappointment post-earnings, particularly with the lowering of guidance for the Nov &#8217;23 quarter. Some of the sell-side analysts are worried about the tough compare versus the November &#8217;22 quarter, too. The sentiment is far more favorable to an upside move after tonight&#8217;s earnings given the September quarter&#8217;s slide, but take that with a healthy dose of salt.<\/p>\n<p>The fundamental aspect of Oracle&#8217;s story is watching what Morningstar says about the gap between Oracle and AWS (and presumably Azure) over time.<\/p>\n<p>None of this is advice or a recommendation, and past performance is no guarantee of future results.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Oracle reports their fiscal Q2 &#8217;24 quarter after the close tonight, with sell-side consensus expecting $1.32 in earnings per share&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[47],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14979","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-orcl"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14979","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=14979"}],"version-history":[{"count":10,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14979\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14997,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14979\/revisions\/14997"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=14979"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=14979"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=14979"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}