{"id":14899,"date":"2023-11-21T20:07:05","date_gmt":"2023-11-22T02:07:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=14899"},"modified":"2023-11-21T20:07:05","modified_gmt":"2023-11-22T02:07:05","slug":"walmart-post-earnings-facing-tough-comps-through-mid-24","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=14899","title":{"rendered":"Walmart Post Earnings: Facing Tough Comp&#8217;s Through Mid &#8217;24"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Needless to say, it was surprising to see Walmart&#8217;s (WMT) stock price reaction to last week&#8217;s fiscal Q3 &#8217;24 earnings release, which saw the stock leave investors with a one-day drop of 8% or almost $14 per share following the earnings release on Thursday, November 16th, &#8217;23.<\/p>\n<p>Walmart&#8217;s forward revenue estimates continue to be revised higher following last week&#8217;s earnings, while EPS estimates were revised a lower.<\/p>\n<p>What I should have looked at with <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=14870\">Walmart&#8217;s earnings preview<\/a>, was the compares against last year&#8217;s quarters particularly as overbought as the stock was coming into the earnings release:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>This October &#8217;23 quarter saw a 1% EPS and revenue beat, while last October saw a 14% EPS beat on a 3% revenue beat, as last year rev grew 8.75% yoy, while EPS grew just 2% yoy;<\/li>\n<li>The January &#8217;24 quarter will be lapping January 23&#8217;s quarter where EPS beat by 13% and revenue beat by 3%, on revenue growth of 7% and EPS growth of 12%. The January &#8217;24 quarter consensus is expecting 3.75% revenue growth on a drop in EPS of -5%.<\/li>\n<li>In April &#8217;23 revenue grew 7.5% while EPS grew 13% and April &#8217;23 was another 13% EPS beat on a 3% revenue beat.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Walmart facing tough comp&#8217;s through April &#8217;24 or the next 2 quarters.<\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;unexpected legal expenses&#8221; were a surprise on the conference call, as nothing Walmart management ever does ever seems &#8220;unexpected&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>One bright spot on the call, which I wasn&#8217;t aware of but is key to the brand&#8217;s future are the &#8220;store remodels&#8221; happening. Obviously that boosts SG&amp;A expense, but I think it&#8217;s necessary. Since I try and engage friends and family (and people wonder why I&#8217;m single and have no friends) about Walmart and get their basic impressions as to whether they shop at the stores and try and get their impressions, the one thing I consistently hear is that the stores are dirty, or rather not neat, and it leaves shoppers with a less-than-favorable impression. I remember walking into my first Walmart in Kansas City, Kansas, in the early 1990&#8217;s after hearing about this great growth stock, and I was singularly unimpressed with the crates and pallets strewn around the store, particularly in the front of the store, and the aisles weren&#8217;t necessarily easily negotiable.<\/p>\n<p>Operating and SG&amp;A expenses have been a remarkably steady 20% &#8211; 21% of revenue for Walmart the last 10 years, but this last quarter jumped to 22%. (Some of that may be the aforementioned &#8220;unintended legal expenses&#8221;.)<\/p>\n<p>Other than Jim Bianco, on X, (Twitter), who commented on Walmart&#8217;s &#8220;deflation&#8221; comments in the conference call today, I couldn&#8217;t find one analyst or strategist who made reference to the deflation comments, although with Walmart generating an expected $645 billion in revenue in fiscal &#8217;24 (ends Jan &#8217;24), and 50% to 70% of that being grocery, the &#8220;deflation&#8221; comments by Walmart management imply a continued decline in CPI, particularly the &#8220;Food-at-Home&#8221; segment, and that is Fed-friendly to say the least.<\/p>\n<p>Jim Bianco commented that Walmart was simply taking recent history and extrapolating it, but Jim may not realize how much Walmart does in &#8220;grocery&#8221; in terms of their market share, and more importantly, how important Walmart is to the average American consumer&#8217;s household food budget. This deflationary pattern Walmart may have seen before and therefore was comfortable in articulating it&#8217;s likely trend.<\/p>\n<p>I didn&#8217;t take the deflation comments as a warning or a negative. If food and grocery are deflating, Walmart can benefit from that in gross margin i.e. cost-of-goods-sold.\u00a0Walmart matters to food &amp; grocery given their size, and that commentary was interest-rate friendly to say the least. (That&#8217;s my opinion &#8211; take it for what it&#8217;s worth.)<\/p>\n<p>Finally, as mentioned above Walmart&#8217;s revenue revisions continue to be revised higher following last Thursday&#8217;s earnings release and that&#8217;s very much a plus for the retail giant.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTrevenuerevisions112123.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-14907\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTrevenuerevisions112123-292x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"292\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTrevenuerevisions112123-292x300.png 292w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTrevenuerevisions112123-146x150.png 146w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTrevenuerevisions112123.png 469w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 292px) 100vw, 292px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m unhappy with this progression. Note the fiscal &#8217;24 and &#8217;25 revisions.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-14901\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123-300x147.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"147\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123-300x147.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123-1024x500.png 1024w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123-150x73.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123-768x375.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123-1536x750.png 1536w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123-1600x781.png 1600w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/WMTweeklychart112123.png 1900w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s Walmart&#8217;s weekly chart as of today&#8217;s (11\/21\/23) close, with the stock bouncing off it&#8217;s 200-day moving average (not shown) and ending the day higher on heavier volume.<\/p>\n<p>The stock may take some time to get back to the previous all-time-high in the mid-$160&#8217;s since it&#8217;s overbought and the margins were mixed and the quarter was &#8220;busy&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Walmart management did say it may take a few years to get the margins where management wants them, (which is at least 100 bp&#8217;s higher on a consistent basis) but management also said new initiatives like advertising and e-commerce are both higher-margin businesses that will help boost margins, as will AI and their supply-chain reconfiguration.<\/p>\n<p>Tough comp&#8217;s the next two quarters may keep the retail giant under wraps in terms of performance relative to the market. The 3% and 10% EPS growth expected this year and next year seems small relative to the low 20&#8217;s PE on Walmart but remember, while the PE is in the low 20&#8217;s, Walmart&#8217;s price-to-cash-flow is just 13x.<\/p>\n<p>Client&#8217;s saw smaller positions added last Thursday and Friday, and this week as well.<\/p>\n<p>None of this is advice or a recommendation. Take it all as one opinion. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. All EPS and revenue data is sourced from IBIS data by Refinitiv.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Needless to say, it was surprising to see Walmart&#8217;s (WMT) stock price reaction to last week&#8217;s fiscal Q3 &#8217;24 earnings&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14899","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-wmt"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14899","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=14899"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14899\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14908,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14899\/revisions\/14908"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=14899"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=14899"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=14899"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}