{"id":12016,"date":"2021-09-19T14:32:08","date_gmt":"2021-09-19T20:32:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=12016"},"modified":"2021-09-19T14:32:08","modified_gmt":"2021-09-19T20:32:08","slug":"updating-sp-500-numbers-market-bubble-conditions-dont-appear-present","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=12016","title":{"rendered":"Updating SP 500 Numbers \/ Market Bubble Conditions Don&#8217;t Appear Present"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Friday night&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/?p=12011\">post<\/a> was a chance to show readers how much SP 500 revenue and EPS &#8220;expected&#8221; growth estimates have changed over the last 52 weeks.<\/p>\n<p>If readers would have been shown the complete week-to-week data, you&#8217;d see how expected growth rates can change over the course of a year for forward estimates.<\/p>\n<p>However, thanks to the pandemic, sell-side consensus has shown the last 5 quarters that analysts are waiting until they are right on top of the quarter or seeing the actual prints and management commentary before boosting their EPS and revenue estimates.<\/p>\n<p>There is no question that the forward EPS and revenue estimates for the SP 500 are the Street&#8217;s best guess as to what the next 12 &#8211; 15 months will look like (and does look like) from a valuation perspective. Combine that with expected &#8220;sector&#8221; growth rates for EPS and revenue and we can compile an educated guess as to risk vs reward.<\/p>\n<p>Hence watching the revisions (even small revisions) to expected growth rates is very helpful.<\/p>\n<p>Looking at the 2022 &#8220;expected&#8221; growth rates for SP 500 EPS and revenue particularly since August &#8217;21, readers are still seeing upward revisions.<\/p>\n<p>Starting with Q3 and Q4 &#8217;21 earnings reports and then 2002, the SP 500 should return to more &#8220;normal&#8221; expected growth rates for SP 500 EPS and revenue as we move beyond the Covid-19 and pandemic years of 2020 and 2021.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>SP 500 data:\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The forward 4-quarter estimate for SP 500 earnings rose to $207.06 as of this past week, versus $206.88 last week. What&#8217;s possibly more interesting for readers is that the forward estimate was $199.34 on July 2 &#8217;21, and $176.54 on April 2 &#8217;21. That is a 17% increase for the SP 500&#8217;s forward estimate just since April 2, 21.<\/li>\n<li>The PE ratio on the forward estimate is now 21.4x versus last week&#8217;s 21.8x and the 21.5x print on July 2, 2021.<\/li>\n<li>The SP 500 earnings yield was 4.67% this week, versus 4.58% last week.<\/li>\n<li>The Q3 &#8217;21 bottom-up EPS estimate is now $49.14. Expect that estimate to trade over $50 once Q3 &#8217;21 earnings season begins.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em><strong>CFRA \/ Lowry&#8217;s and Market Bubble Conditions\u00a0<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>CFRA Lowry Research held a conference call this week, and talked about the market-cap issue for the SP 500 and what that portends. It&#8217;s an ongoing issue since today&#8217;s SP 500 looks a lot like late 1999, early 2000, with the tech concentration in the SP 500 and the Top 10 market-cap issues in the SP 500 today being 28% of the key benchmark.<\/p>\n<p>Without revealing the entire presentation, Lowry made the point that market bubbles are accompanied by extremely long breadth divergences (see link below)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubbleslongbreadth91721.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12018\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubbleslongbreadth91721-300x167.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"167\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubbleslongbreadth91721-300x167.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubbleslongbreadth91721-150x83.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubbleslongbreadth91721-768x426.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubbleslongbreadth91721.png 962w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>and then with a number of additional slides, concluded that &#8220;conditions consistent with a market bubble remain absent&#8221; (see slide below).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubblesconditionsnotpresent91721.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-12019\" src=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubblesconditionsnotpresent91721-300x139.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"139\" srcset=\"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubblesconditionsnotpresent91721-300x139.png 300w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubblesconditionsnotpresent91721-150x70.png 150w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubblesconditionsnotpresent91721-768x356.png 768w, https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/CFRAbubblesconditionsnotpresent91721.png 964w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Regarding market breadth, which is obviously a key metric when considering secular bear market setups, Lowry noted that:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>NYSE &#8220;all-issues&#8221; Adv- Dec line peaked July 2, while the Operating Companies Only (OCO) Adv-Dec line peaked June 8;<\/li>\n<li>The Nasdaq Adv-Dec line peaked February 2;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em><strong>Summary \/ conclusion: <\/strong><\/em>As many have noted the SP 500 has been in a &#8220;stealth correction&#8221; all year. The latest stat to get some traction is that since the SP 500 peaked in early September &#8217;21, declining 6 of the last 8 sessions, the magnitude of the drop has only been 2% &#8211; 3%, which is not (yet) a big deal.<\/p>\n<p>The substantial difference between the tech and Top 10 SP 500 concentration today, and 1999, early 2000 is the &#8220;quality of earnings&#8221; of which Ed Yardeni has written about repeatedly in the last few years. When &#8220;tech&#8221; hit 33% of the SP 500&#8217;s market cap in early 2000, the SP 500 &#8220;earnings weight&#8221; of that concentration was just 13%. Today, with 27% of the SP 500 being tech today, the &#8220;earnings weight&#8221; is far higher, closer to 22 &#8211; 23%, and while Tesla is probably the largest weight in the Top 10 of the SP 500 with the biggest divergence between market cap weight and &#8220;earnings weight&#8221;, Tesla (TSLA) is part of the consumer discretionary sector along with Amazon (AMZN).<\/p>\n<p>Personally, I would love to see a 5% &#8211; 7% correction within the SP 500 between now and October 10th, just to reset expectations, but I suspect Q3 and Q4 &#8217;21 SP 500 earnings will be ok and more importantly the 2022 SP 500 EPS and revenue growth rate revisions are still ticking higher.<\/p>\n<p>Remember too, just because the conditions aren&#8217;t present for a &#8220;market bubble&#8221; condition, doesn&#8217;t mean the SP 500 couldn&#8217;t see a substantial correction.<\/p>\n<p>This could all change quickly with the tax bill and tapering (expected to begin in mid-November &#8217;21) and a whole host of other &#8220;unknowns&#8221; that could strike unexpectedly.<\/p>\n<p>Take everything you hear and read about the markets with a grain of salt and some degree of skepticism.<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for reading.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Friday night&#8217;s post was a chance to show readers how much SP 500 revenue and EPS &#8220;expected&#8221; growth estimates have&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[148,275,91],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12016","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-earnings-weight-vs-market-cap","category-ed-yardeni","category-weekly-earnings-update"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12016","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12016"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12016\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12026,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12016\/revisions\/12026"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12016"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12016"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/fundamentalis.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12016"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}